
Tea, Rockets and Yanks
Tea, Rockets and Yanks is a lighthearted cross-continental dialogue between charismatic British politician Adam Kent and American military wife Tina Furman.
The two met in the most unlikely of settings – a rocket launch – and their spontaneous, engaging conversation on the cultural differences and similarities between the UK and US sparked an idea for a podcast.
Tea, Rockets and Yanks
Tea, Rockets and Yanks. Series 2 Episode 4 - Trumps Party
Summary
In this engaging conversation, Adam and Tina discuss the recent political landscape in the US and UK, reflecting on the inauguration day festivities, the contrasting political climates, and the implications of economic and energy policies. They also delve into cultural observations, including fashion choices at the inauguration, and the challenges of remote work in today's society. In this engaging conversation, Tina and Adam discuss a range of topics from the reinstatement of military personnel dismissed for not receiving the COVID vaccine to the role of government in personal freedoms. They explore workplace dynamics, generational differences in work ethic, and the excitement surrounding space exploration, particularly Mars. The discussion also touches on California's political landscape, the influence of social media on political views, and the economic challenges posed by taxation and government assistance programs.
Takeaways
- The inauguration day was a significant event celebrated widely in the US.
- Political dynamics have shifted, with many commentators changing their views on Trump.
- Economic policies in the UK are causing concern among citizens and businesses.
- Energy policies in the UK are seen as counterproductive and costly.
- The political landscape is marked by dissatisfaction with current leadership in both countries.
- Cultural commentary highlights the peculiar fashion choices at the inauguration.
- Remote work challenges are prevalent, with many employees struggling to balance work and personal life.
- The conversation reflects a deep concern for the future of democracy in both the US and UK.
- There is a sense of jealousy towards the political situation in the US from the UK perspective.
- The discussion reveals a humorous yet critical view of current political figures and their decisions. Many service members were dismissed for not receiving the COVID vaccine.
- Government overreach in personal choices is a growing concern.
- Career opportunities can arise quickly in the workplace.
- Generational differences in work ethic are evident in today's workforce.
- Space exploration is a topic of great interest and excitement.
- California's political landscape remains predominantly blue despite changes.
- Social media significantly influences political opinions and family dynamics.
- Economic challenges are exacerbated by high taxation and government assistance programs.
- The conversation highlights the importance of personal freedoms in a democracy.
- The future of work may involve more remote opportunities and tax implications.
Chapters
00:00 - Celebration and Inauguration Day Festivities
03:04 - Political Reflections and Comparisons
05:56 - Economic Policies and Their Impact
09:05 - Energy Policies and Environmental Concerns
12:01 - Political Dynamics and Leadership Critiques
15:04 - Cultural Observations and Fashion Commentary
17:58 - Workplace Dynamics and Remote Work Challenges
32:40 - Reinstating Military Freedom
34:50 - The Role of Government in Personal Choices
38:29 - Career Progression and Workplace Dynamics
40:44 - Generational Work Ethic
41:58 - Space Exploration and Mars
46:02 - California's Political Landscape
50:06 - Social Media's Influence on Politics
53:56 - Economic Challenges and Taxation
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Well hello Tina! How you doing? I'm Well, how are you? I'm... well... I'm in the UK so how do you think I am? Ugh, bummer. Yeah. Gotta come to the country of greatness. Yeah, well we need to do something about making the UK great again. But you've been having a party, haven't you? Yes, yes, we are all jumping for joy over here in the US. Well, we were going to do this podcast on the day you got elected, but I think you were either drunk or otherwise engaged weren't you? I was celebrating, I wasn't drunk, but I was celebrating the greatest day on earth. Yeah, well I mean we were talking about it over here actually because it's so unique isn't it for a politician to promise everything while he's going for election and then deliver it all on the first day. Yeah, yeah, need it. We were just watching when he was signing all those documents and working out what he'd actually signed and one of my friends actually did an analysis of it for one of the journalistic publications over here. I mean, gosh, he's really ticked the mess this last week or so, hasn't he? Wow, every day, all day, yes. That's what he does. yeah, so what was the party like then? What was the setup? What did you do? What was the, cause it was Martin Luther King Day as well or something. Yeah, yeah, well that's apt, isn't it? Did they do that deliberately? No, this law changed back in think like 1933. this is, we always do it on the 20th of January, but yeah, it failed that way this year because of the holiday. I see, so the holiday day fell on the same day. Yeah, that's brilliant. So everybody was on holiday anyway. it's because it's a national holiday, isn't it? It's a proper bank holiday like it is in the UK. So everybody was off and watching it. I presume you're all in the bars and pubs and everything. Yes, nobody was at the bars and pubs or whatever that you call them that I know about. We were glued to the TV at home because we were not going to risk someone changing the channel somewhere. And so we stayed at home and just live streamed it all. brilliant. So did you just watch it at home with a family or did you have friends around or? No, I was actually kind of like working on my computer for stuff. So I stayed at home and it was just Brian and I and we were just glued to the TV all day watching every single signature that came across the desk and that speech. mean, who doesn't love that speech he gave, right? I watched a few actually. There was the speech and then there was the next speech and then there was another speech, wasn't there? But yeah. big speech and you can just see Kamala and Biden in the background, right? And everyone's standing up and applauding Trump and they're just not moving their carcass off the seat, are they? No, no, no, was, it was surreal, wasn't it really? was absolutely brilliant. mean, you know, I mean, think a lot of people over here were engrossed as well. So it was like, it wasn't just, it wasn't just you in the US. I think people were watching this all over the world, you know. every country, every land far, far away was tuned in to America's inauguration day this time. And is it just me or does it seem better the second time around with him? Well, it's certainly, it's certainly been received a lot more differently, hasn't it? I think certainly the view over here and I think even on the left wing commentators in the US, I've seen some of them eating what we call humble pie. A lot of humble pie, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we call it humble pie here and they're certainly changing their tune. I mean, I sent you that link over, didn't I? what the politicians in the UK had said about Trump before he got re-elected. And it's like, they're all now there saying, we've got this special relationship. And I thought, I mean, he's come out and said some nice words about Stama today, I think, which I can't believe. must be lining him up for something, to be perfectly honest, because, I mean, if they really want revenge, mean, Musk has been piling in on the UK government like it's going out of fashion. But you know, I said really with all these Democrats that were going to be leaving, was the offer I made the last time. I'm yet to receive an offer to switch out for one of your Democrats that wants to flee the country and change places, you know, because I'll happily come over for the next few years until Stammer's gone, to be honest, because I don't know how much we can put up with over here. So we're really, really jealous, well, a large proportion of us are. Yeah. of people. I was in the pub the other day and they were going, oh, it's terrible that Trump's got elected, isn't it? I said, you what? What do mean terrible? He's the first politician. I mean, look, they've elected him on what he said he was going to do and he's gone and done it. So how's that terrible? That's called democracy. Yeah, yeah. And it was our democracy was threatened for such a long period of time that on the first day it was given back to us is what we feel like. Yours is threatened. He's unwound so many rules. I thought the thing about the diversity officers, we've got loads of them in the UK. What a waste of money. We know. thought race had ended years ago and think that vocal groups, minority groups, have managed to bring it back as a subject. But it isn't a subject because nobody really cares. Nobody's got those views anymore in my mind. Exactly, but they want you to think there's epic proportions of racism because without that they just don't have a leg to stand on, they? Exactly. So why do need all this rubbish? So no, it's incredibly refreshing to see what he's done and we are very, very jealous because the government we've got at the moment here is, honestly, it makes the communists look right-wing. Yeah, it's that bad. It's that bad. bad in your country though? Do they not see how it went for the United States and how just absolutely horrendous it was having a Democrat in our office, you know, like Biden for four years and what a bad turn it took, you know, for the United States and how we've had to reclaim it and redo it. If your country is watching the United States as a, I don't know, replica, then how are they going down the same path? And how do they think it's correct? How is that possible? Isn't it odd it used to be that the US copied what the UK does now I think we're in a situation where the UK has got to copy what the US has done and I think it's coming I think it's coming to be honest the when you talk to the public they're absolutely there they've really had enough now isn't it funny it gets to what we call a tipping point whereby you won't take any more and I think America reached its tipping point hence you yeah Hence you've made the democratic decision you have. And I think we're pretty much at ours, but unfortunately it's just after an election. to be honest, the Conservative Party did themselves no favors. There was that much political infighting because they all wanted to be prime minister, that they were all stabbing each other in the back. But most of them have gone now. So I think the new leaders got to sort it out and just see what happens and just see if we can... come back but we've got all this pressure now with this new party reform so it's a bit like having an independent party some sort of libertarian type party like you would have in the US that is rising from the ashes and yeah they're gaining ground at the moment so it's going to be quite interesting but the problem with that is as I've said to you before that splits the right of centre vote so the Labour Party has no competition on the left side of it and they're not what I would call Democrats. They're more like Bernie Sanders on a communist day, if you know what I mean, in the US. So they're really quite hard left. And the policies they're putting through at the moment are devastating to the country. I was at a livestock auction yesterday supporting the local farmers. because they've imposed a huge amount of inheritance tax now on the farms, which means for those farming families, when they pass on the farm through the generations now, they're going to have to keep selling off pieces of it to pay land taxes or inheritance tax on it. Do you feel like that's a like a way of trying to get them to sell out on the farm so they can seize the land or turn the land into what they want it to be instead of farmland? Gosh, you should definitely be in politics. There is a thought about that because we've got this nutter called Milliman who still believes net zero is a thing. So you've got America with all those natural resources. And I've just finished watching Landman actually with Billy Bob Thornton. So I want to go off to Texas now. If anybody's got an oil rig and they want me to come out there, I'm happy to get my hands dirty. Where there's muck there's brass they say here. And I'm quite happy to come out there. I quite enjoyed that. But you've got Trump going drill baby drill. And we've got over here, the only thing they're drilling here is the citizens to be perfectly honest. mean, honestly, we're at the point that there's going to be a situation I think where if the wind doesn't blow in the UK, the lights go out. You know, so it's horrendous. They're getting rid of all of the coal, all the coal. power stations have gone now. They're getting rid of gas ones. They've gone one that uses wood pellets. And do know where we get the wood pellets from? I mean, it's just perverse. We're actually importing them from Canada. So net zero involves bringing ships over that I pretty much think are probably fueled on diesel all the way from Canada. So they chop the trees down in Canada. They stick them on a truck. They drive them to the coast, they turn them into pellets, they put them on a ship, they sail them to the UK, they stick them into a power station, they burn them, which puts loads of smoke into the atmosphere, and that's net zero. You've got to be joking. mean, how is that financially conducive to anyone to do that? not. It costs billions a year to run. It's the most expensive power. It makes nuclear look cheap. I mean, it really does. It's absolutely nuts. And then we've got all this gas and oil and coal under our feet, readily accessible. And they don't mind it because we're trying to save the planet when we represent, I think it was 0.00001 % of the global emissions. Let's face it, if America and China don't care, there's no point in us worrying about it. You know, there really isn't. And if you throw India in the mix as well, we really are that insignificant. I just can't believe these politicians actually think it's a thing for the UK to go away and say, yes, we're going to save the planet because we're about a quarter of the size of Texas or whatever. It's really going to make a difference. Honestly, it's absolutely nuts. Well, what you see about them is they care about lying in their own pockets and they don't care about the general public of the world. I just don't get it. Do you want the best bit? Do know what happens when it's really windy in the UK? Windmills barely don't kill birds is what Trump said. No, when it's really windy, the windmills are going round too fast so we have to pay to switch them off. classic. It's it's absolutely true because they spin around too quickly and you know what, until I watched Ladin Man I didn't realise because obviously all the oil wells in Texas, obviously they're remote from power a lot of the time so they stick a windmill up don't they to power the pump. And it was explained to me that that windmill or that whatever wind turbine isn't it. Winter by load of oil to grease the turbine anyway so if you don't get the oil out the ground you can't grease the turbine so I don't know where we're going to get the oil from for the turbines it's certainly not our oil I know what they'll do they'll buy it from another country they'll ship it to the coast they'll put it on a ship they'll use diesel to get it here and then a truck to deliver it to the turbine net zero eh brilliant somebody's making some money somewhere Tina And there's only one group paying for it, the residents. So I don't know. Honestly, it's just like, get me out of here. There are so many millionaires leaving the UK at the moment. I think I read the other day in the last 12 months, over 11,000 have left. because they're going all sorts of places, tax places, Florida, a few have gone to Florida. Yep. anywhere where the taxation is lower than the UK which actually equates to anywhere in the world. So are you allowed to buy land in the United States then? Yeah, I think so. There's definitely people moving over to the US. Obviously, if they want to stay there permanently or as a tax thing, can actually invest in a business in the US and then you can get a visa. So if you put in enough money into the US, i.e. you're not in a legal that's just topped over the border from Mexico, then America thinks, yeah, you're giving us cash, you're employing people. Yeah, you can come. So there are people there. Because even with my business, because Most of my sales are in the US. I can get a visa to actually work in the US. Come on over and buy some land and just stay awhile. I'm just going to sell a bit more and make it more worthwhile. And I get too tied up in politics here. I'm trying to change this country. Do you know that? Which is... Seems like you have a tall order on your hands. Yeah, well, I'm saying it's like a split personality, isn't it? I'd rather be in the US, but I don't want to leave my residence and the public in the UK to the ramifications of this communista that we've got running the country at the moment. But they're falling apart. They've got no business experience at all on the cabinet, the Labour group. And they've renamed the chancellor of the Exchequer, Rachel from Accounts. There's been an absolute uproar at the local council because somebody said it was misogynistic to call a Rachel from accounts. Basically, in a nutshell, there's an allegation, I am not saying it's true, I'm saying there's an allegation that she was a little bit over enthusiastic when she wrote her profile for LinkedIn about her experience in work. So she embellished. I couldn't possibly say that's true or not. It is just an allegation that she said she was an economist. And the allegation that's been made and the phraseology that is going around that's been repeated by many senior politicians is that she's really Rachel from accounts. I mean, it's a little humorous to be honest. Yeah, exactly. You take it. Apparently one of my colleagues has been accused of being misogynistic because of it. I think it's absolutely ridiculous to be honest. In fairness, there was a brilliant article in one of the major papers in the UK, The Telegraph, which said it was really not right to call her from Rachel from accounts because she didn't really have that qualification. She actually worked in the customer complaints department. She should have been Rachel from Customer Complaints. which in fairness would probably turn around and say she's got just the right experience for the policies that she's put it out there now because there's that many complaints out there. She's absolutely perfect for the job. So instead of, I wouldn't possibly say it's Rachel from accounts because I wouldn't be accused of being misorganistic at all. I think Rachel's got great experience in the customer complaints department, which should hold her in. good stead for being Chancellor of the Exchequer in the UK. Because she's managed to upset pretty much everybody in the UK so far. If you're leaving, what's it matter, right? just feel like you can't leave the residence to suffer. You're torn. Do you just give up or do you try and fight it? And we're trying to fight it, I suppose, but it's not easy. find it as long as you can and then when you realize like they have to do something to save themselves you have to walk away you can't save every short-term trip they're never going to get back in. So far they've upset the pensioners, they've taken away their winter fuel payments so they've just turned around and said look we need we need a billion let's freeze the pensioners for Christmas you know so that's what they did. They've upset the farmers by sticking inheritance tax on them and anybody that makes a gas boiler they're fining them they've brought in a thing called a boiler tax which is quite a unique one honestly you couldn't write it. And then they're up in the taxes on small businesses from April, which will basically mean that loads of companies go bust and into liquidation in the UK. So the only thing you want to actually be, I think in the UK this year, is an insolvency expert, because you're going to get plenty of work. We are going into a recession. then, and it's terrible when you see the difference in attitude and the difference in outlook in the US to the UK. I've never known such a huge divide between the two countries in terms of you're all happy as whatever and we're suicidal basically. So you know but I don't know. I mean, we, to be fair, I mean, we've, we've suffered under the democratic thumbnail of the Biden administration for four very, very, very long years. So our Grand Reward was long awaited. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you've certainly done him well. He was really busy. I was trying to work out because when was the election? Was it the 5th of November or something? Or was the election the 5th of November or 4th of November was it? Yeah. And then why does it take so long for Trump to then get into power? I mean, one of the theories I've got, and you'll have to tell me if you're right or wrong, is that how long it took Biden to write all the pardons? Fair question. Yeah. I'm not quite sure, I did look it up. Wasn't there 8,064 of them? Yes. Yeah, big number. Well, you're not going to tell me that he remembers who all of those people are. Yeah, because he has no idea. They handed him a stack of papers of pardons and he went through signing them. That's exactly what happened. how can he pardon somebody he's never met? Exactly. Great question. Next question. You know, like no one knows the answer to that. Like he doesn't even know what he did. He doesn't know. people would allege that the person that's put in the list in front of them has got quite a good job, haven't they? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If I worked for Biden, I mean, I could, I don't know, I could probably have been the president. He would have just signed up a waiver and said, Oh, just make her, you know, great. You know, yeah. It's just absurd. Yeah. I mean, suppose Trump's thinking, I wish I'd pardoned myself when I left the last time, like Biden did, because he pardoned his whole family as well, didn't he? whole family while Trump was giving his speech. Biden was pardoning his entire family. So hang on, I'm trying to... Was he pardoning them because they've done something wrong? Or because they're thinking of doing something wrong? When does the pardon... How does he work? Yeah, I think it's D all the above is what the is. Is it like a get out of jail free card for the rest of your life or is it just up to the point when they issue the pardon? If you've pardoned and you do something, can they then still go back to you for that? Like, are you pre-partying? Are you post-partying? Who is this? Ew. 8,064! Somebody said to me, Biden can't even remember who was in the room that day. Let alone 8,064 people. doesn't even know his real name. And he was hardening these people? Sometimes I take him off this stage and he was just sitting on the stage kind of with this weird grin on his face. Like he was, you know, was there. That's what I was, exactly what was Is he just pumped up with Botox? Does he even know he's there? It was almost like criminal. Right? It was criminal. Talk me through Mrs Trump's hat. We all want to know. What's the story? What's the story of the hat? with respect to her because we do love her, but on a fashion sense, she looked like she was part of the Amish community or something. I was like, what is? thought she was in the funeral. thought, hang on a minute. Yeah, it looked like a day. Good morning, didn't it? What in the world? believe you said that because the one time when we were over in the States because there was the Art Fest in Miami, we were flying into Miami and we couldn't get a hotel on South Beach because of Art Fest. They were all full, but they were like $1,200 a night or something, know, because it's like, have you got a Bentley or a Ferrari or whatever? Are going to write an open check? I think at Artfest in Miami, they just turn around and say, look, you just fill out the form and we'll write a number in after you leave. But we had to stay the night at the Trump Hotel in Miami on the golf course. And there was loads of Amish in there. It was full of them because Trump was also, he managed to get, did all the Amish vote for Trump this time, because obviously they'll all be going on their horse and carts down to the polling station. It'd just be brilliant. Yeah. All the horses and bodies in the United States specifically, thank you. Yeah. I had to fly over to Tampa for a meeting and I left Vicki at the hotel. She said it was most surreal experience she's had in her life really. Because they just go in the swimming pool. They don't bother with a costume. I've been at breakfast, I'm wearing what I'm wearing, I'm like a strain ball. I mean, imagine the weight associated with that. but, so what was the dress? Has anybody said what it was about or? No, I haven't heard. think, you know, they were trying to just make her look, I don't know, classy. I don't know. It was almost disturbing. you know, I was like, see any? Yeah. And I thought it's almost like a morning situation. I've got to go through another four years of this. It was very peculiar in my opinion. We kept commenting on it here at the house and normally, you know, they would have worn a colorful outfit with a brighter hat, you know, very classic America. But yeah, she looked like a mixture between a hipster and an Amish person, you know, with the hat and we just couldn't figure that out. So. So truth be told, we were like, okay, you know, we love your family. We love all of you, but you're going to have to file your fire stylist because this isn't going to work out. they're not going to be getting much work in the future from anybody, they? mean, think whoever the stylist was must have thought, oh, it's brilliant. get to style Mrs. Trump for the big day. My order book is going to be full for years to come. And pitching fired, gone. No, it definitely didn't work, did it? I couldn't quite work it out, really. But I thought it was quite funny, know, Biden sat there while Trump insulted him for about 10 minutes. And yes, and him and Harris both, I mean, just sat there and was just completely insulted for about 10 minutes while Trump screamed on them. And Biden just almost had a grin on his face. He did applaud him on one thing, I can't remember what it was, there was something he applauded. I was watching and I thought, what was it he applauded? the refugees being or the yeah, yeah, yes they did. It took them a little bit to even respond to it because I mean and they didn't stand until they saw other people standing and then they're like, you know what? It's going to look bad. Yeah, and that's the reason. Good. Yeah. I watched some of the coverage of President Carter's funeral. Yeah, and there was a bit, wasn't there, where Obama was talking to Trump and they did a lip sync thing to try and work out. Yeah, well, I don't know whether what I was told was what they were saying was true or not, but it was like, whoa. Yeah. think there was any love lost between Obama and Harris by the sounds of it, you know. Well, I don't think so. No. Yeah. Because, yeah, I'd be interested in meeting with Trump and Obama now. I'd be quite interested to hear what they said, wouldn't it? It would be interesting. I think that Obama just says whatever he wants that are lies and Trump will just call him an ignorant. It, you know, just call names and tell him how stupid he is and ask him. So, he'll say he's not the president anymore. Get out of here. certainly no love lost between Trump and Hillary Clinton, there? They don't like each other, do they? Yeah, and did you see her sitting back there, you know, a windbath? grinning at everybody and waving like Bill does, you know. Yeah, he's a great networker, Bill, isn't he? just got that scouring grin on her face. and sour, isn't she really? It's like there's nothing about... What do you do with your presidential candidates? Where do you get them from? mean, you know, it's like you've been shopping in our Labour Party, to be honest, you know. that's fair. Yeah. can't we pick people that are young and intelligent perhaps, with bit of common sense? There's yeah, that's just it. You hit the nail on the head. It's just common sense. Like this is why we shouldn't be doing this. You know, just look at the numbers, you know, it's measurable data. Like why are we doing that? So. so yeah, so no, so it's entertaining times. Yeah, we've got, we've got local elections in May, and I'm up for election. So yeah, so that's going to be interesting. So we've been we've been putting some newspapers out and doing a bit of campaigning, but the Labour Party's decided to abolish most of the democracy in the UK. So surely you'll win on even like if it's a default because they're trying to. is there might not be an election, we don't find out until Tuesday. Well basically what they're doing is reorganising all the government. We've got like parish town councils, district councils, county councils and then parliament. Well you know what it's like. I mean how many councils are there in each of your states and areas? You've got governors, you've got senators, you've got councillors, you've got mayors. You've got a sheriff who's elected as well aren't they? The sheriff's elected isn't it? I thought you should have gone for that job actually. You'd have made a great sheriff. Sheriff Furman. Firm Furman. That could have been it. Fight against crime. Vote Furman for a firm fight against crime. Yeah. I could do all the slap lines now. I've got it. I've got it. I've got it. But you've got a job now. Because I said, can you do the podcast? And you said, I can't. I'm working. And I went, what? Work? Tina? Do you actually? Get up in the morning and go do stuff then. do. Yes, I go I get up at 5am and I yeah 5am I get up every morning at 5am. I get had my coffee get dressed throw makeup on I drive 40 minutes to work. Each way. Yeah, each way. And no, that's just mind boggling to you that I don't stay the night there all week. move in, know, like have a little, a little like, you know, caught with something at work so I don't have to, you know, drive all over. cause over here we haven't discovered the concept of actually going to the office again yet. well, if you live in the United States, you saw that our president said back in office or you lose your job, right? He told them. to do that here. I really, really think we need to do it. Because I tell you now, when I go to the car park at the county council, it's not very full on a Monday and a Friday. And I just can't work it out Tina. I've talked about this before. It's really odd isn't it? So you're working from home. Why on earth would you want to work from home on a Friday and a Monday? Yeah, you know, so we have people at our business that have been at home since COVID and you cannot go onto this place as a business. These people aren't there. And do you know what they have on the door? They have a sign that says, please email this person that's supposed to be working in this building. Yeah, it's not even a phone number. It's not a person. Like it's a name and it's an email address. Well, then you email that person. OK, and they don't email you back because they don't have course they don't. They're walking the dog or they're having a coffee down the cafe or they're picking up the shopping or on the school run. They're not at work. I was at the mall in Nashville a few weeks ago buying a pair of shoes and there was a lady next to me and she was on her phone and somebody, the lady that was servicing her asked her question. She said, I'm sorry, I'm trying to put in my, I'm trying to log on so that the people that I work for will think I'm working from home because I'm supposed to be teleworking but really I'm out buying shoes. And I was like, she's gotta be kidding. So she was trying to log on to her computer via her phone so that it would look like she was working from home when really she was at Dillard's buying a pair of shoes. She was at Dillard's and I was there with her. It's when they join the teams meeting and turn the camera on by mistake. They're right in of the shoe sale. Yeah, let's do so. So, you know, these people, Trump said, no more of this, get back in the office. And so I said to my husband, said, what are these people going to do that need to go buy shoes? they're going to have to do, they're going have to buy a car as well because they don't need to. I mean honestly it's unbelievable isn't it because he didn't he turn around on the on the on his inauguration day and say that he was going to that had been dismissed from the armed forces or whatever was going to be reinstated with back pay so how's that going to work I mean They're going to do it and good for them because you know a lot of our service members were exiled essentially you know kicked out of the military from not receiving the COVID vaccine. We have friends that were dismissed from military service for not receiving the COVID vaccine and now they are going to be reinstated in their jobs or whatever and given full back pay as they should have been you know. Isn't that the epitome of where we went wrong? You know, when you're telling people it's compulsory to have an injection. You know, where did it's compulsory to drive an electric car? It's compulsory to get rid of your oil boiler. Where did the world suddenly think this was how you run a democracy? I think it was somewhere between the Clinton and Obama administrations, if I'm being honest about it. added here as well. So I think it's a global thing. I think it's cowardice really, isn't it? Don't make, because I know Boris Johnson didn't want to do these injections or whatever. And then he got COVID and he was really ill, but he was sort of pushed into it by the civil servants is my understanding. by the bullies of the government. Government bullying is at its finest with this. You are not going to do that. Stop telling people what they can and cannot do with their bodies or their choices and whatever. Just let people be free. That's the name of our country. That's what we're going to do. Trump's going to be here to restore freedom. Well, I hope you do because I sincerely hope it rubs off here because freedom is something we seem to have lost. I mean, I am so fed up of being told what I'm going to do and how I'm going to do it and why I've got to do it and the threats that the government's coming out with. It's just gone far too far really. It needs to be reined in and pulled back really. So anyway, back to your job. What are you... Can you tell us what you do or is it secret? Are you a spy? I'm not a spy, no. I think so too. I think I can do it in. I can adjust to different situations, I think. Yeah. So you might be a spy, because if you were a spy, you wouldn't tell me anyway, would you? You'd have to lie that you weren't a spy, even if you were a spy. So what do you tell everybody you do? I tell them that I am the secretary to the chief of a organization. That's correct. Yeah. Yeah. do spy. They don't do spying in the sense of, yeah, spying. Everybody's going to think, gosh, Tina, she's in charge of the Secret Service or something in the US. goals, goals, goals. Yeah. Yeah, so you're not working for the FBI then. Well, there you go, you see, that's it then. So we cleared that bit up. yeah. So you drive for 40 minutes, yeah. Go through with some sort of security, I'm sure, to get into your place of work. And then we don't talk about your place of work anymore. So that's it, isn't it? It's great, isn't it? That part of the podcast is going to be very short. Yeah, yes, I drive 40 minutes to go through secure locations to go to work. Yes. It's quite funny because where I lived is the GCHQ or the main secret base effectively for the UK is not far away. So you meet lots of people out and about who have very odd stories about where they work and what they do. Yeah, yeah. None of them have Alexa in their house either. That's always a good way to find... Have you got Alexa at home? That's how you tell if you're a spy. You know, there's always something listening, you know. So that's it, isn't it? So you meet somebody in the pub, go, have you got Alexa? no, I haven't got Alexa. You're a spy. Yeah. I will say that I have learned a lot about security measures and things. I will say that. So I've learned a lot. I heard the funniest joke. mean, it was put out. You know, with Alexa, it translates something. It can translate for you. So you can ask it to translate a phrase into a different language. And if you've got time and you you're sat there not at work and you're on your phone and you're thinking, you know, I'm going to go back to what Adam said. You've got to look up the phrase. Just put in Keir Starmer translate to Welsh. and then look up what they say because it's a phrase that's been going around on the internet that if you translate four innocuous English words into Welsh, it comes out not how you would expect. It's quite funny. So that's a tip. So anybody that's listening on the comments, you've got to say if you worked out what it was, please don't print when you work out what it was. Just say, I know what it was in Welsh because it's quite good actually because the Welsh language can be really useful for taking an innocuous word and turning it into something incredibly rude. But very accurate in my mind in terms of that particular guy. Yeah, so there we go. my job is that I've been there for about six weeks now and I yeah and I have been told that I am potentially getting poached and already six weeks they want you to run the organization. Do you know what? I'm not surprised I'm not either. We agree. And two of those weeks were Christmas holidays and no one was even working. really, I've really and people have been on leave and such. And so really, I've only been working, you know, with these people, kind of like a couple of weeks in person. And they're already pulling me to different things, places, organizations, et cetera. and I've been told numerous times, at least 10 to 15 times. you you're leaving next week, you're getting poached and they're pulling you over here and they'll see a need for someone like you in this, or higher up to run such and such and so you're not gonna be here long. And this past week, I was like, my gosh, this is already happening. And then the second week in February or something, they're using me for a different situation already. Well, you've got to get in at the ground level and then be running it in a couple of months, haven't you really? That's the way. But obviously, and if they are listening, I'm sure they'll be fully aware that with great success, there should be great rewards. So I hope you're properly compensated for this additional responsibility. Maybe every time they move, you have to double the package. Definitely, definitely do it. You know, there's a difference between a person my age and experience than, you know, these millennials, right? Because they have, I don't know, zero work ethic, maybe, and foresight into the future of zero. They're not. for a moment. you're not and then rolling you're not here because you're working from home and to if you were here you're not working because you're on your phone or you're watching which is honestly and then oh I got a story about that one so well then you know in even if you are there in person you're supposed to take 30 minutes for lunch they're gone for an hour and a half they don't come back they don't they put in half the work and their delivery is total crap you know, because they're smart Alex, they don't have to talk to human beings. yeah, I think that so one one of the directors or whomever said, you've got the best personality of anybody I've ever met, and you can just talk to anyone. And I said, you know, it's funny, because I got a business partner in the UK that said that to me. And I said, we meet? We were at a rocket launch with thousands of people there and the two of us were the only ones that were talking. I mean, what an eclectic mix of people we met. I've just had an email today. I'm really gutted. It says my Kennedy annual pass is expiring this week. And I'm like, I want to see a rocket launch. It's been so long. we're back out in June, I hope. So just trying to finish this house and other things. I'm in Barcelona on work soon and then we come into the States so yeah, I miss it. I want to see Elon blowing up rockets and shooting rockets everywhere and whatever else. It's just brilliant. I just want to go to Mars. Everybody thinks I'm crazy. I mean, come on Tina, you must know somebody that can get me on that first flight to Mars. I probably do know someone, but I think that... that. I don't mind doing the training. I'll come over. I've watched Gravity, so I know what the crack is. And Interstellar. Yeah, I could do it all. They need somebody. What I'm thinking is, because of my age, know, normally you wouldn't want to send somebody to Mars at my age really. No, well, I'll be fine. It doesn't matter. But that is the point really, because when they do research in space and everything, they're checking everything, aren't they? How your body reacts. where you can grow lettuce and watercress, whatever you can do in a particular environment. They could send me up there on Elon's first rocket, so I'm the first person to naturally die on Mars. And then I could be used for research, couldn't I? They're going to need somebody to do it. And I don't mind going up and saying, look, I don't mind. You send me up there. I mean, just brilliant, isn't it? boil. mean, dad buried? right over there, just before Jupiter, you know. If you look 200 meters to the left of that star in just be brilliant. And having watched Silo, have you seen Silo? Oh, there's some American thing. I don't know whether it's on Paramount or whatever it's on, but it's great. Yeah, it's basically after Putin gets going, we have to build all these silos in the ground that are about 120 stories and people live in them because the whole of the above ground is now decimated and... person is. or whatever, they have to live in these silos really. But you know, after watching that, thought, right, it's no problem here, you've just got to create this silo on Mars really, and away we go, this environment. But what they do is, when you die in the silo, they plant you in an area and plant a fruit tree over your grave. So basically then you can eat an apple that's been fueled by my remains, effectively. How cool is that? This is Apple Adam. then you know what they call it, wouldn't it? Adam's apple. Yeah. I think it's got a ring about it, doesn't it? It's his Adam's. And I bet they've all got a different flavor, you know. Some might be like grapefruit or orange, slight taste. is the first thing that they'll put on Mars. If Americans could build on Mars, you know, what they've An oil well. Perhaps I was gonna say a railroad car. All the houses at a railroad car is now like, what are you doing, you know? that because not a lot of people are going to understand what that is. Yeah. Well, you've seen a train, you know, it's a train car. It's a metal box train car, railroad car, and they transport goods throughout the car. Well isn't that what his starship is? reckon they'll just land on the starship horizontally and it just becomes like accommodation? And then he'll link them all together automatically, won't he? And he'll build this great big base. I think it's gonna be brilliant. You've just got to get me on the first... I'm relying on you now. By the time you get to the position of being in control of who goes to Mars first, that's got to be your objective because I reckon that's my only chance. Bit of nepotism. If I ever become in charge of who the first people on Mars is, I promise you, you have my American right hand up sworn, you will be my first phone call. And I'll say it's Adam. It's gotta be. you what, after I've gone, the apples will just be gorgeous. Very edible. just be brilliant. They will really be edible. know, the British, they could call it the British apple, couldn't you? Because, yeah. And in fairness, the British are always, look in fairness, I should also be allowed to step on Mars first. And then you can come along later and claim it as your own. to stick. to do that, aren't you? And to be honest, my DNA is exactly the same as every other American citizen, isn't it? Although I haven't got any Welsh as we discovered the time before. That's all yours, isn't it? You're the Welsh one. Yeah, yeah. dear. It's been a lot of fun. mean, on slightly really depressing note, what the hell happened in LA? That fire. Horrendous. you know, they set fires, you know, because they're rebellious. so, you know, that's, I mean, naturally, you know, but a lot of them set fires, you know. so were some of them set deliberately, they? Allegedly. yeah, allegedly. Some of the speculations, some of them start naturally. You know, here's the thing is that there's always been fires in California and there's always going to be, right? the heat. Well, it's that wind, isn't it? Because I remember watching, I think it was the holiday actually with Cameron Diaz that we've talked about before about the swap from America to the UK. But she was talking about the wind. What is it called? Is it the Santa? What is it? Santa Fe? Santa Monica, Santa Valley, but all of that sea, I mean, it's all desert. There's nothing to block the wind. There's no cover. And so when the wind gets going, it just takes off kind of in a straight line and there's nothing to knock it down and the fires just rage and it's so dry there that it just, and wind. Yeah. And it just carries it. it? They come off the trees and things like that. So I suppose really, well, we had it in London years and years ago. The great fire of London basically decimated most London, but they were all timber buildings, you know. But I suppose they're going to change all the construction code and everything else now in terms of, you know, thought. mean, because wasn't there a lack of water as well or something? And they cut the budget for the fire department or something. The mayor had our sort. That was a wise move, wasn't it? I think that California is tired of California and it's maybe burning itself down. It's like, you know what, we've got to get rid of these people and this is the only way we can save ourselves. probably going to be the one thing that tips California the other way because we've talked about Californians and their sort of addiction to the Democratic Party, haven't we really? Do you think this will turn California red then? I don't know that that will ever happen if I'm being honest. think that California is always going to be red, blue, and it's always been blue. And I think it would take more than an act of Congress to turn it red. Yeah, I think that the residents in the UK, we better say your blue is a bad blue and our blue is a good blue. So I don't know how that worked out, but one of the polar differences between the US is the blue party of the Democrats and the US of the left-wing party and the red Republicans is the right. Whereas in the UK, the red is the hard left communists and the blue, which I'm a member of, are the angels, you know, with the really... Good. Supposed to be right of centre and we will be when we got rid of all the interlopers that ruined the party for the last few years. Well, California will always be blue in our democratic blue in our opinion. And it doesn't matter what they do to change that. But I will say that a lot of, of the movie stars and stuff like that, that live in LA or in, you know, California, they're leaving. They're all of them were going to leave anyway, weren't they? I mean it's just now they're going to have to leave, aren't they? Well, some of them are leaving because they because it's, you know, they want to leave the country because of the election. But some of them are leaving because they're escaping politics and they're moving to states like Texas and Tennessee and Florida that are Republican in an escape of their own political party. They've turned so bad. And we thought for a minute, wow, California might turn red this year. It didn't. But, you know, but it's always the inner cities, right? So You can look at the states that are blue. Only the major cities that are, you know, the Democratic, everything outside of the city is still Republican. But since that inner city has so many votes, they win the state. so, but this election, we won all of the swing states too. And we really thought we were going to get California too for a second and maybe even New York. And we would have had New York. if it wasn't been for Manhattan. New York almost was completely Republican as well. So at this point, I mean, I don't get that because it's always been so left, hasn't it? You know. tired of it. I think everybody in the United States, if you have a head on your shoulders and you're not corrupted by social media and you can think for yourself for more than five seconds, you could not possibly be a Democrat. You couldn't possibly do it. We actually have a... a child situation right now that one of our children isn't even speaking to us because we're Republicans. And I'm like, the oldest. And so it's like, what are you? No, no, not that one. No, the oldest, the oldest, oldest one. So it's like, what is wrong? And all, you know, he's recently wanted to do is kind of, you know, fight about it and disagree. And and I'm thinking, what is going on with you? And you know what it is, it's social media. drives these kids. exactly the same in the UK. And it's really interesting what you say because the inner cities, so for example, London and Birmingham, pretty much all left wing. then, you know, I mean, that's that's Know about the country, but in our country, the inner cities have kind of like maybe like the poorest incomes or, you know, and more people like on WIC or, you know, do y'all know what WIC is in your country or like food stamps? WIC is like... yeah, we have benefits here. I was going to come into that, yeah. Yeah, welfare or like food stamps, so like government assisted and government assisted housing. And so that's all in the capital cities. Yeah, the inner cities of each state. You know, that's where you're going to have the most people that are on government assistance and they want to keep that government assistance. And if they vote Republican, they're scared that it will be taken away. And so do you want to know something? Because over in the UK there was a statistic released in the last week or two which showed that 53 % of individuals in the UK receive more in benefits, i.e. assistance, than they pay in taxes. 53 % and it's exactly the same setup as you've got, well, probably not as many getting benefits in the US as there are in the UK. I don't know. that's why we're getting all the asylum seekers crossing their channel and everything else as well. But the problem they've got now, because they've increased taxation so much on businesses and entrepreneurs, they're all leaving. Well the top 5 % pay the vast majority of the taxes. So when they leave, the economic situation of the government in the UK is going to be horrendous. Absolutely horrendous. they're holding it up right now but yeah yeah working. I mean, we pay if you earn over 100,000 a year in the UK, which to be honest in the US is not a big salary. mean, you know, since software engineers in San Francisco earning $350,000 a year, no problem. But if you earn over 100,000 pounds a year in the UK for the next 25,000 pounds you earn or something like that, you're paying 62 % in tax. So who's going to bother? Exactly. And now you've just answered your question about teleworking. Why is everyone teleworking? Well, let me answer your question for you. Because you can live in Tennessee where the tax where there's no state tax, right? And you cheaper, but you can have a telework job that's in California making 300k a year and live in a free. Correct. And so you see how they've manipulated the system. And now the Republicans are saying no more of this. Trump came in and said, no more of this. You will reside in the state in which you work and you will file taxes in the state in which you work and live. And so, because it's not fair that you're taking advantage of the small states who are rate taxes, yeah. Yeah, or they're going to have to commute from Tennessee to California on a daily basis, which might be a bit longer than 40 minutes. Then they might need a cot in the room. need all that oil. Yeah, drill baby, drill. can't wait. Honestly, I just hope you get the fuel prices down, to be honest. I mean, we're going to be buying, and we are buying, gas, as in not just petrol, but I mean the actual gas, from you. That's where we're buying it from, even though we've got it under the ground. And that's net zero. So, Milliband thinks it's really good that we have loads of ships coming from America, using diesel, and a ship. and all the people from the coast of America all the way to the UK to provide the gas for our power stations that we've actually got under our ground that he won't let them drill for. resources or Yeah, you got. Yeah. Well, here's one for you. Last one. I was in I was at work the other day and some gentleman in my office that I work with. We all went out to lunch together and they said, dear, does your phone have the TikTok app? And I said, I don't know. I don't think so. I don't know. Unless my kids put it on their years ago and they said, check your phone. And I said, actually, yeah, I do have the TikTok app. And they said, well, your phone, look on eBay, because your phone's worth hundreds of dollars now, because if you pre-downloaded TikTok before the... right, you can sell your phone. Because you banned it, you can't get the app off the app store now. brilliant. so now if you have TikTok on your cell phone, you might, you may or may not be looking at some money in your future. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it might be worth it to someone. So, well, I haven't, I have not checked eBay to see what that's, you know, if that's true or what they're going for or whatever. And do you guys have eBay in your country? yeah, I had a right result on eBay. We have charity shops in the UK and there's loads of them on the high streets because they don't have to pay business tax, business rates. So they're the only viable shop on our high streets really. But I was in one and you know the personal body armour that soldiers wear, you know with the armour plate and put all your bullets in the air with a water pack on it. There was a brand new one of them on there that's an American make or whatever. This camouflage thing. in the charity shop for £20 and it's brand new and I'm looking at it and thought I'm just going to google this and I googled it and there were like five six seven hundred dollars you know near I thought I'm going to buy this so I bought it I put it on eBay I sold it for 200 quid I made 180 quid from the charity shop I'm obviously for all those listeners out there as a politician I'm going to be donating that excess profit to a good cause yeah Good cause I really need an upgrade to premium economy on my next flight to the US So instead of sitting in economy and upsetting locals there I'll be using that money for a good cause to increase me to premium economy now I'll probably donate it to another charity because I run Marathons all the time, but I thought isn't that brilliant. I love eBay So now I'm I'm wandering through all the charity stops looking for personal body armor now, but I haven't seen any more You know, they don't seem to do it there really but anyway That's been an hour that has, Tina. It's been a blast. We're going to have to try and do this more regular, but it is a lot more difficult now you work. Yes, I know. And I'm sorry for that. I'm sorry, but also I'm not sorry, because I'm having a load of fun to be honest. Yeah, but have Starbucks been in touch to say how devastated they are that they didn't offer you a position or not? No, no, they have not done that. And I don't care if they did. I'm not doing my job and I really, really, really love it. And I think that they love me too. And I'm gonna stay there for as long as I possibly can, That's brilliant, Tina. Well, look, great to speak to you again and we'll catch up in a week or two. yeah, I don't know what's going to happen in the US or what's going to happen in the UK. You just got to keep taking the happy pills while we're over here and just hope and pray that something changes. But I doubt it's going to. But anyway, good to see you. Bye. Bye.